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johnnycv
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 Posted - 02/04/2006 : 08:25:56
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Hi,
I read the FAQ, and I'm wondering what's recommended for the 2 instruments I'd like to use the tuner for. The Clavinet range is from 1/2 step above the low E of a 4-string bass to 2 octaves above the High E string of a Guitar. I don't need true bypass, as I've got a tuner out on my Volume pedal.
1. From the manual, it looks like the VS-S only stores offsets to the strings. Could I store a meantone temperment in the VS-S (i.e. offsets for a 12-note reference octave), or would I need a VS-II or V-SAM?
2. For a standard equal temerment tuning (and ignoring the issue of stretch), which V series model would be better at tuning the low end of the clavinet?
3. Can Buzz Feiten offsets be stored in the V-SAM or VS-II?
4. Which has a brighter display, the V-SAM or the VS-II?
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John Norris
Peterson Strobe Tuner Rep
USA
2426 Posts |
Posted - 02/04/2006 : 09:23:52
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Hi Johnny,
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The Clavinet range is from 1/2 step above the low E of a 4-string bass to 2 octaves above the High E string of a Guitar.
I am assuming this is a Hohner D6 or similar, right?
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I don't need true bypass, as I've got a tuner out on my Volume pedal.
The tuner out on the volume pedal still loads down the signal, it doesn't remove a tuner from the signal chain.
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1. From the manual, it looks like the VS-S only stores offsets to the strings.
No, its fully chromatic and actually stores 13 note values per setting (2 E's).
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Could I store a meantone temperment in the VS-S
Yes, as long your chosen Meantone temperament's cent values don't overstep the StroboStomp's cent adjustment range (-15 cents to + 15 cents in 0.1 cent increments). I suppose it depends on which Meantone temperament you need.
The VS-II and V-SAM both have wider -50 to + 50 cent adjustment ranges than the StroboStomp.
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2. For a standard equal temerment tuning (and ignoring the issue of stretch), which V series model would be better at tuning the low end of the clavinet?
The StroboStomp, VS-II & V-SAM's ranges extend way below most musical instruments low end (under 10 Hz), however it is the clavinet's high end which might be critical with the StroboStomp, its limit is around 1975Hz, or the note you get when you fret a guitar's high E string at the highest fret on the fingerboard.
The VS-II & V-SAM ranges extend higher.
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3. Can Buzz Feiten offsets be stored in the V-SAM or VS-II?
Yes
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4. Which has a brighter display, the V-SAM or the VS-II?
In order of brightness:
1. StroboStomp
2. VS-II/V-SAM
John N.
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What Is A Strobe Tuner?
Its a..
Guitar tuner (strobostomp)
Reso tuner (StroboFlip)
Piano tuner (AutoStrobe 490ST)
Harp tuner (StroboFlip)
Guitar techs tuner (AutoStrobe 490)
Pedal steel guitar tuner (StroboFlip)
Bass tuner (StroboStomp)
Violin tuner (StroboFlip)
Tap tuner (Strobe Center 5000 II)
Viola tuner (StroboFlip)
Steelpan tuner (AutoStrobe 590)
Lute tuner (StroboFlip)
Cello tuner (StroboFlip)
Percussion tuner (Strobe Center 5000 II)
Buzz Feiten System tuner (StroboFlip)
Bagpipe tuner (V-SAM)
Classroom tuner (Strobe Center 5000 II)
Accordion tuner (AutoStrobe 590)
Dobro tuner (StroboFlip)
True bypass tuner (StroboStomp)
Software tuner (StroboSoft)
Rack tuner (AutoStrobe R490)
Pedal tuner (strobostomp)
Harmonica tuner (StroboFlip)
Bell tuner (Strobe Center 5000 II)
Luthiers tuner (AutoStrobe 490)
Its the most accurate tuner
Its the original tuner... |
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johnnycv
Starting Member
USA
2 Posts |
Posted - 02/04/2006 : 14:43:13
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Originally posted by John Norris
Hi Johnny,
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The Clavinet range is from 1/2 step above the low E of a 4-string bass to 2 octaves above the High E string of a Guitar.
I am assuming this is a Hohner D6 or similar, right?
It's an E7. Identical pickups, tone filters and switches, in a black tolex case that was shielded to block interactions between clav pickups and Rhodes pickups.
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I don't need true bypass, as I've got a tuner out on my Volume pedal.
The tuner out on the volume pedal still loads down the signal, it doesn't remove a tuner from the signal chain.
hmm. I suppose all your tuners load the signal when engaged, then? So the bypass would still be a benefit, unless I want to add an a/b splitter to my setup.
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1. From the manual, it looks like the VS-S only stores offsets to the strings.
No, its fully chromatic and actually stores 13 note values per setting (2 E's).
Excellent!
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Could I store a meantone temperment in the VS-S
Yes, as long your chosen Meantone temperament's cent values don't overstep the StroboStomp's cent adjustment range (-15 cents to + 15 cents in 0.1 cent increments). I suppose it depends on which Meantone temperament you need.
The VS-II and V-SAM both have wider -50 to + 50 cent adjustment ranges than the SroboStomp.
Good to know. I've thought about setting up in a meantone tuning to read through the Fitzwilliam Virginal Book on my Clav, but who has the time?? A workable meantone could be had with 15 cents range, though.
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2. For a standard equal temerment tuning (and ignoring the issue of stretch), which V series model would be better at tuning the low end of the clavinet?
The StroboStomp, VS-II & V-SAM's ranges extend way below most musical instruments low end (under 10 Hz), however it is the clavinet's high end which might be critical with the StroboStomp, its limit is around 1975Hz, or the note you get when you fret a guitar's high E string at the highest fret on the fingerboard.
The VS-II & V-SAM ranges extend higher.
OK, most electric guitars are 22 frets, a whole-step shy of the high E on my clav. However, the top octave on a clav is akin to tuned squeaks, and the bottom half octave is light on fundamental, heavy on overtones, including a fair amount of inharmonicity. I'm used to relying on my ear to get this nailed, as the k&$g OT-12 I've been using has trouble with the clav timbre in these ranges.
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3. Can Buzz Feiten offsets be stored in the V-SAM or VS-II?
Yes
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4. Which has a brighter display, the V-SAM or the VS-II?
In order of brightness:
1. StroboStomp
2. VS-II/V-SAM
John N.
Thanks, John. Sounds like the V-Stomp would do me right, unless I decide to get back into alternate keyboard temperaments.
Appreciate your help! |
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John Norris
Peterson Strobe Tuner Rep
USA
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